Burn Ban alternatives

[denverdoc]

Bummer re the burnban and suspension of activities at both NCR sites. A reminder that Hartsel is not yet affected–we have a commercial launch scheduled 7/22 (all fliers welcome, but no BP) and another EX 8/26. If there were sufficient demand for another day and the manpower to help set this up, who knows? But this should help.

John S

PS 102 in Arvada at 6pm, mid june no less, man this summer gonna be a scorcher–of course last yeats planetary temps were the warmest in what 600,000 years! You would think thats a record that might stand a while 🙄

[Tim Thomas]

🙂 Also keep in mind that UROC will host HellFire on July 13-16. I Know several NCR members will be there. And I can tell everyone first hand that the UROC bunch is a fun bunch to fly with. And there will be no Fire ban on the Salt Flats. They also have alot of contests, NCR members have been winning more than their share of. Lots of Venders, lots of good deals. Check the UROC site for more info. 8)

[Chris LaPanse]

Yep – I may well fly my SSS at hartsel if the burn ban lasts any significant length of time. Still, with any luck, it will rain some this summer (it certainly rained 2 years ago 🙄 ), and we’ll be able to resume launching relatively quickly.

[denverdoc]

Is this legal–flying sss from 8800′?

[Warren B. MusselmanModerator]

That has been discussed, but no decision was made. Currently, the only valid site to fly the SSS or SSSS at is either Pawnee North or the Atlas Site. If we do get a burn ban, I will discuss with the executive committee and post an announcement on the front page.

Warren

[Bret PackardParticipant]

I must have missed that. Is the burn ban official? For future reference where would I go to check the status? Guess it’s time to get to work on my Octoberfest rocket. Sure glad I got some flights in last Saturday…

[Bruce R. Schaefer]

I never thought I’d write this, but “Here you go, Batman!” This includes the Pawnee National Grasslands…

News Release * News Release * News Release
June 13, 2006
http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/arnf/
Contact: Mary Ann Chambers 970-295-6676 Reghan McDaniel 970-295-6770

Fire Restrictions in Place on the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests

Fort Collins, Colo. – Acting Forest Supervisor Jackie Parks issued fire restrictions today which prohibit building or maintaining open fires or campfires and restricts smoking on National Forest System lands in Boulder, Larimer, Clear Creek, Jefferson and Gilpin counties. Fires are allowed in developed recreation sites such as campgrounds or picnic areas.

“Conditions are very dry and the fire danger is high. We need everyone to help us by complying with these restrictions,” Parks said.

These fire restrictions prohibit:
• Building, maintaining, attending or using fire or campfire, charcoal, or wood stove except within a developed recreation site such as a campground or picnic area. The use of petroleum-fueled stoves, lanterns or heating devices providing such devices meet the fire underwriter’s specifications for safety is allowed.
• Smoking except in an enclosed vehicle or building, a developed recreation site, or while stopped in an area at least three feet in diameter that is barren or cleared of all flammable material.
• Welding or operating acetylene or other torch with open flame.

Violations can be is punishable by fines as high as $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization or imprisonment for as long as six months, or both.

Spark arrestors are required on internal and external combustion engines and fireworks are prohibited on National Forests by other regulations.

Larimer, Boulder, Clear Creek, Jefferson and Gilpin counties, as well as Rocky Mountain National Park and many other land management agencies, also have fire restrictions in place. Please check with these local jurisdictions for details.

For more information, contact your local ranger district office or visit our website at http://www.fs.fed.us/arnf.

Doesn’t mention rockets, but that’s implied. 🙁

[Anonymous]

It was my very clear understanding that SSS and SSSS shots *must* be flown at an NCR event. That was the way it was set up last year. In changing over the website, I don’t see that now. If that is NOT the case, then we’d have chaos… Very hard to administer, officiate, etc.

As the rockets are less than a lb. and less than 4 oz. propellant, they could technically be flown anytime/anywhere (they are model rockets under those parameters). Too many venues makes for an erratic, hard to administer situation.

I have the first year’s SSS rules on my other computer, and I’m traveling now— but I can tell you that it was explicitly stated in those rules that the launches had to be at an NCR venue and an NCR event. I personally don’t think flying them at TCO, C.R.A.S.H., etc. should be allowed… nor do I think that I (or anyone else) should be able to roll out to the N. site in the middle of the week and let one rip under the model rocket rules. To officiate this whole thing, we specified NCR sites.

Warren, do you still have the rules sheet I sent you from last year, when the website was being rolled over?

Just my 2NS.

JW

[Bruce R. Schaefer]

Agreed, John. My understanding as well. The playing, or flying, field must remain equal. Don’t vector the variables.

[Warren B. MusselmanModerator]

Yes indeed I do John, though to be honest I don’t remember the rule – it does make total sense and quite frankly, I don’t want to deal with administering flights made outside sanctioned NCR launches. Thanks for reminding me.

Warren

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