H999 contest

[Dr. Michael Sutter DC]

well lets say that if your egg shell doesnt break then you can break it open after being checked for ALT and egg shell status.

If you want to see if the yolk did infact break or not. That should be a requirement for all “survived eggs,” Is to see yolk status. ( for science baby!)

now i dont think a bonus should be added yet, just too soon to call IMO but for the sake of saking we can see if their is some data that may show survivability of yolk at high G’s by taking eggs that havent broken during their flights and see yolk status

Then if we hold this event 2 times a year then the first contest will set the tone for future contests

[denverdoc]

Heh…

I’m not saying that has anything to do with it – I’m saying there will be some natural variations because NOTHING in nature comes out identical every time. Some eggs will have larger yolks, some smaller, some weaker, some stronger, etc. I’m saying it introduces an element of randomness in an otherwise skill-based contest.

And what I’m suggesting is that it adds an element of skill insofar as you have to figure out the means to cushion the entire capsule from the jerks at ignition and burnout. But I’m with Sutter, lets just fly it as proposed and see what happens.
John S

[new2hprParticipant]

maybe work up to 20W50 if need be. Worst case you can use 90W hypoid gear oil.

Warren

Can we stick to human-consumable oils here? The thought of some 90 weight getting into the loser-cooked breakfast isn’t too appetizing. 😉

-Ken

[Warren B. MusselmanModerator]

Well my initial thought was to start with olive oil – but, greater viscosity might be necessary.

Warren

[Ed Dawson]

I starting my chickens on a diet of milled carbon fiber and kevlar. I hoping that should do the trick.

[Anonymous]

I starting my chickens on a diet of milled carbon fiber and kevlar. I hoping that should do the trick.

Now THAT is funny!!!!!! Cracks me up! (good pun, eh?)

In all sincerity, there seems to be considerable discussion on an H999 contest. This seems a bit odd, since we can hardly get folks to fly the good ‘ol SSS. Adding layers of qualifications on this, i.e. flying eggs, etc. seems to be a bit much. I’d be delighted if we got ten guys to just do an SSS. Last year, something like 3? of us flew. This year it was perhaps 5? if we complicate the contest by mandating that we fly eggs, bringing them back intact, etc. my hunch is that even fewer will fly. I think we’d have exceedingly few entries… and fewer actual flights.

What can we do to generate more interest in the SSS? I’d love to see a huge kitty, with guys coming from all over the place to try and win it. I’d LOVE to see a $600, $800, or higher pot. Thoughts?

[denverdoc]

john, see my other post on the sss 07. I think we should follow the model of TARC–have sectional qualifying events and a fly off at LDRS. TRA does a lot of things right but they miss the mark with competition, which NAR does exceedingly well. I think we could get a g80 kitty of a few thousand $$ this way, but why stop there? Lets do s^3, S^4,S^5 with g, i. and l classes respectively. Drop the particular motor requirement. Lets compete in HPR on a nat’l basis. With $$, forget record logs as the incentive! I think we need to allow proxy flighs as well.
J

[Dr. Michael Sutter DC]

What can we do to generate more interest in the SSS? I’d love to see a huge kitty, with guys coming from all over the place to try and win it. I’d LOVE to see a $600, $800, or higher pot. Thoughts?

I am all for the SSS! the problem is this contest is 130$ to do if you think about it…. 20$ ante, 20$ G-80T 60$ altimeter 30$ to build a sweet rocket.
and you all have the luxury of looking for long hours and never finding the sucker again! kinda rediculos IMO.
SSSS is not much better cause you will need to have a transmitter to find a rocket cause a 6′ rocket 2-3 miles away is next to impossoble to see so to enter in the SSSS its $130 for Case, $45 for reload, 70$ for ALT, 300-600 for location beacon & transmitter, and price of rocket and materials and the ante is $20 so to enter this contest and be able to retrieve its in upward of 300+ dollars

Egg contest is this much approx
altimeter $70 (which most of us have) motor case $35 for H999N-P(most have closures), reload $25, custom made rocket to hold egg….scrap tube to 100 bucks for carbon and what not, and 10$ ante,
but benefits are we get to eat some omlets and see if we can keep an egg from breaking at 115+g forces! and for some we can kinda do our own mythbusters experiment to see if the yolk breaks or not 🙂

[denverdoc]

Doc S,

With all due respect your economic analysis misses the mark–it lacks rationalization, a skill we all need to be consummately well versed in–as without it, you may come to the very sober realization that it might be cheaper to buy and build a gyrocopter or dragster.

As to SSS: you can’t add the cost of the altimeter–this is an essential piece of gear anyway. The motor can’t count count either as you’re flying a rocket and get the 2 seconds of visibility anyhow–granted at 10 bucks a second that equates to $36000/hr. Well that cost is defrayed by the countless hours of intellectual stimulation (how many DVD rental charges can you save by poring over Rocksim flights and minute adjustments that in the real world likely amt to nothing, but thats besides the point as it is protective against cognitive decline, and the therapy involved in actually building the rocket once designed. Priceless. I think you get my drift 😉
John S

[Anonymous]

… you may come to the very sober realization that it might be cheaper to buy and build a gyrocopter or dragster.

Or a full-scale space shuttle.

If you are counting your pennies, this is not the hobby to engage in. Imparting an economic cost/benefit ratio is not prudent.

This is like elk hunting. My buddy once told me that he was pretty sure we had finally gotten the elk meat down to under $200/lb. I’m not so sure of that, myself. I’d say we have a ways to go yet……….

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