LEUP

[Greg RappParticipant]

hey, guys, for the newbie here, under what circumstances do you have to get a leup? i’ve bought some motors from joe at hobby town with no problem; i can also buy motors from tim at a club launch, right? so why all the hassle?

thanks,

greg

[James Russell]

it is all what you want to do. I topically fly M and bigger and also participate in research launches so it is something I need. If you have access to the motors you are flying with out a LEUP then you may not need to or want to. once you start flying motors that you need to have shipped to you or you need to store motors larger then the 62.5g’s then you may want to get one.

not everyone needs one and if you need help getting a motor or storing one for a short time there are people that will help you out.

[MikeSModerator]

Woo..Woo

Tim (An ATF Guy) called today and met myself and my Wife at our Home.

He was very nice, professional and thorough.

It lasted about an hour. he asked questions part of the time and
informed part of the time.

I anticipated him not knowing a lot about rocketry. I had three of
my rockets on display. A 29/40-120 case, a Pro 38 (4 grain) case and an RMS G64 reload on the table.

When the topic of propellant weight came up, I grabbed my scale and We weighed the G64 propellant. So He could gauge 62.5 grams. G64 grains
weighed at 51.5 on my scale. Aerotech site says 62.5. My scale is off a
little. Regardless of weight. He was surprised it was so little.

He had to work around some of the wording. It was hard to explain giving
a LEUP to a guy that launches rockets. He did a good job.

He urged Me to consider getting a storage LEUP in the future. Stating it
would probably help me out in the sport.

I am getting my LEUP. Should have it in a month.

One sad statement. We talked about the Court Litigation. He said..He
had been informed it was now LAW. I have not read any place that
a Judge anywhere had went with the Feds.

Have You??? Hope Not!!

Thanks for all the Help. All my paper work was filled out correctly. Thanks
the the NCR forum and the NAR web site.

[Jeffrey Joe HintonModerator]

Yehaw. Sit by the mailbox and wait for it. Should come in about three diffferent envelopes and then you’ll need to make copies and post the original where the world can see it. Congrats. To the best of my knowledge, NO decision has been finalized by the courts. Everything is still pending, as far as I know.

[Bruce R. Schaefer]

To the best of my knowledge, NO decision has been finalized by the courts. Everything is still pending, as far as I know.

I think the court or decision date is 7/27 this summer. Both sides have submitted their final arguments… so it’s wait and see.

[James Russell]

7-07 is the date that the judge will revue everything and see were things are. it is not judgement day, would be nice if it was but I would think it will go a bit longer…

[James Russell]

One sad statement. We talked about the Court Litigation. He said..He
had been informed it was now LAW. I have not read any place that
a Judge anywhere had went with the Feds.

Quote:

shows you what they tell the field agents. with nothing in righting it is not law but I would not want to be the one pressing that point with them.

[Bruce R. Schaefer]

I would not want to be the one pressing that point with them.

James, you’re right. It’s not law. The only thing the BATFE can do is try to enforce “regulations,” not laws–only Congress can enact laws. And until APCP is determined legally to be an “explosive,” they really can’t do anything. Bottom line. If I want a LEUP (and eventually, storage), I better shut up. 😯

[MikeSModerator]

Still have not got the paper work in the mail. From June 20th.

Called my ATF Guy today.

He said He would see If He can make some phone calls and get it to me by Oktoberfest. Everything looked OK. Just the back log.

Hope – Hope

It sure may put a wrench in my flying. One must look at the BIG picture.

[MikeSModerator]

Tim the ATF Guy called today and said my license would
be put in the mail in three days.

I should see it sometime late next week.

Woo..Woo..

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