level 1 Question.

[Dr. Michael Sutter DC]

when I buy a kit 1st question i ask is do i think it can handle more than the manufacter’s recommended motor load? id say almost every time its a yes! EZ is a good rocket to put a 38MM motor mount in.
you just have to mod the fin roots to match against the new motor mount tube. also when you lay up your fins use the 15 min epoxy never the 5 min… 5min is good but if you want to launch on J motor eventually you want the good slow cure epoxy.

As far as G10 vs Plywood, G10 is good stuff ( hence PML kits being more money) we have gone well past 800MPH+ and not had a problem… not to say you rocket is ever gonna pull that much force. I have my minimum Diameter 38mm using plywood, but i re-enforced the fins with fiberglass just for the extra bit of durability when you go from 0 to 1000mph in 3 secs it should hold up fine IMO.

you can always add nose weight… never hurts when you are certifying rocket will be more stable, also it might not go as high so you dont have to walk to the first windmill(im lazy after the 5th launch of the day 😀 )

Oh yeah Chris has every motor casing known to man so… he will recommend the funny casings like the 1 grain 38 case LOL or the 1 grain 29 case… cause he has them (most normal citizens have 3-4 grain cases 29/180-240 and 38/ 360-480)… Good thing is if you need a motor case chris most likely has it and he will usually let you borrow it if you ask (of course the last time i borrowed his case the motor CATO’d on a lame ass G77 redline so i shot him some cash-ola after that lil mishap and so went the night launch rocket.)

try to build a rocket to get your level 1 and 2 not just one… kinda saves you from having to buy another kit, but some people want to have 2 different rockets, but I level 1 and level 2 on my PML tethys

[Chris LaPanse]

Heh…

Well, every motor case known to man that is 38mm and down other than CTI…

As for those cases, I love my 1 grain 29. The F37 is an amazing motor 😉

If you need a case, just ask me, and I should have it if it is a 38 or smaller. Probably my favorite for L1 stuff is the Animal 38/390 case, closely followed by the Aerotech 38/600. The 29/360 is fun too. Basically, if you need it, and I have it, you can borrow it (well, pretty much always). 😆

[MikeSModerator]

In review to whats needed for a level 1
1- NCR Member.
2- NAR or Tripoli Member.
3- Prior Notification (to NCR) of intent of Level 1 attempt.
4- An NCR member with at least that level as witness.
5- Safe rocket for attempt with that levels motor size.
6- Notice to a vendor for the motor to be available.
7- A member with that level or higher to purchase motor.

Is that about it?

I am still planning on MHM 2007 on the friday launch.

[Warren B. MusselmanModerator]

Actually, if you’re cert’ing Tripoli, you need to be sure Joe Hinton is there – the Tripoli Prefect. He is required to sign off on either L1 or L2 certs.

Warren

[MikeSModerator]

OK.
I am an NCR Member
I am an NAR Member
I have 4 reloads paid for and GLR Is holding (2 – Is / 2- Hs)
I have 3 level 1 capable rockets ready.
I have vacation on May 4th and 5th.
I have my Certification Application printed.
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Now All I need is a level 1 , 2 , or 3 mentor to inspect, witness
and sign the paper work for level one.

Any takers?

Thanks Mike

[Warren B. MusselmanModerator]

Talk to Joe Hinton, NCR president and Tripoli Prefect – he’s a good point contact for certs as he is both NAR and Tripoli. He can readily arrange additional NAR witnesses. Drop him a line at iflyrockets@yahoo.com or just see him at a launch.

Warren

[Bret PackardParticipant]

I plan to be there and would be happy to witness, but really you’ll have no problem finding willing help.

[new2hprParticipant]

You’re way ahead of me on your L1 prep. I’m still epoxying motor mounts into the fincan. Maybe by MHM…

Damn priorities like getting fulltime employment 😡

-Ken

[denverdoc]

Hey thats cool the same kit i used for my L1. I even FG’ed it thinking an H would cause it to go mach….Course I knew nothing then. But its still part of the fleet. These days just a test bed for new painting techniques…
But a stout warrier. And with the help of Dale and others good enuf for the Welcome, open your wallets refrain.
Man if that wasn’t the single most truth i was ever told.
JS

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