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May 22, 2010 at 3:41 am #52726
Bruce R. Schaefer
Chris, despite our respective ages, we are brothers in this hobby, no apologies needed. There are at least three exceptions: those who tow the trailer, vendors, and those who volunteer who don’t need to do anymore. “Both” means NAR and TRA, but the Range Safety Officer is in charge of the whole range and can’t be held up in a tent. E.g., if I see you with a rocket, I’ll glance at it and pass you through. I know your history. Edward wants us to weigh each rocket and give it the once over twice, and that’s not wrong, just unrealistic. I’ve had more trouble with “Estes” kits and flight than anything else. 🙄 😯 I think we’re all just trying to get the most out of those who volunteer and require those who don’t to step up. OH, and as I learned from Joe, those who do their L3 have the day off! Good luck, Chris… though you’ve flown an M already. 😉
May 22, 2010 at 4:13 am #52727Chris LaPanse
I’m not convinced that it’s unrealistic – as I said, if there were a separate RSO table, the RSO could inspect each rocket as the flyer is filling out a flight card. Two RSOs can easily handle an LDRS-size volume of people, so one should easily be able to handle our comparatively small traffic.
Oh, and thanks for the wish for good luck (and as for the prior M, that’s true, I did fly one before. This one’s bigger though :D).
May 22, 2010 at 5:23 pm #52728Bruce R. Schaefer
I took time to think about this, and you, Tim, and Edward may be right. And, a Rocket SO and Range SO would be best. BUT I think the point of all this is we need a fundamental change in the club philosophy on volunteering. Let me go back a little bit… I joined the club in 2005, then at the club meeting in 2006, we were all yelled at (rightfully so) for not volunteering. I just joined and didn’t know what was going on. Now I do, and nothing has changed. There are those who volunteer and always did and always do. They get it. Others don’t. THIS MUST CHANGE. And, whatever we do after that is fine. BUT THIS MUST CHANGE, AND IT MUST CHANGE NOW.
May 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm #52729Chris LaPanse
I agree. I think the “Range RSO” position could be filled by the LCO reasonably well though, with the “Rocket RSO” position as separate. That would only require 3 simultaneous positions to be filled, which I think is doable.
Oh, and I agree about the volunteering. I will definitely try to do some RSO or LCO duty at Mayhem, it’s just difficult to promise when I will be able to given the number of flights I have planned (alphabet + L3).
May 22, 2010 at 7:37 pm #52730Bruce R. Schaefer
Chris, and you should be able to fly all those flights. This is also the problem. You should be able to fly as much as you want and still put in at least two hours during the event. No biggie. You nailed it.
May 22, 2010 at 9:02 pm #52731Chris LaPanse
I agree, and if I were to guess, I would say Friday afternoon I will be able to do some work, as well as possibly Saturday afternoon. I just don’t want to promise when I might not be free at exactly the time I thought.
I will try to get much more volunteering in at Oktoberfest, as well as throughout the summer, but at Mayhem, I have so much planned that I don’t want to promise an exact time.
May 22, 2010 at 9:59 pm #52732Bruce R. Schaefer
IF I can make MHM and keep some credibility, providing I ever had any, I will go to volunteer at MHM and fly at Oktoberfest. In reverse of you. People can swap times and events, just so everything is covered. Ed always has the signup sheet available at the sign-in table. And, just for some encouragement, perhaps the signup person should ask the people signing in to check the volunteer list and give them the “evil” eye if they don’t. 😈 That is important, because there will come a time, if we all don’t step up, to where one volunteers to fly. Period. Since the fire risk has become more real to us, it is important that we maintain control of the range, as best as humanly possible. And, that takes people. The truth is we can all fly our brains and wallets out and still make sure everyone else gets to fly safely. Oh, and TAPS and NAR L3CC’s are exempt, too. Since they usually have their hands so full of certs that they get to fly rarely themselves. Joe has taken on the responsibility of providing us and those across the country with motors, as Tim did. Joe has ALWAYS been there, and he still will be, but in a different capacity. Those of us who helped Tim out at one time or another should step up to help Joe so the man can fly. What goes around comes around. Ed, I apologize if I stepped into your area. Just a lot of time on my hands the last few years to think about things, though that should change soon. Just my “rah-rah” moment. 😉
May 23, 2010 at 3:49 pm #52733Ed Dawson
Great news – thanks to everyone for stepping up.
I have posted the updated schedule on the “Volunteer Schedule” section of the NCR website. Hopefully you’ll check it out – remember that you need to have pop-ups enabled to see the schedule.
During the four days of Mayhem we have 39 hours of launch activity. With the sign ups so far, we have 27hrs of LCO covered, 2 hours of RSO covered, 12 hours of pad management, and 9 hours of registration table – plus the trailer towing by the two Kens. While this is far from 100%, it is at least enough to be “go-for-launch” from a volunteer’s perspective.
We will still need people to help and sign up on-site. Tell your friends!
Thanks all.
May 23, 2010 at 7:25 pm #52734Mitch Smith
Ed, It looks good where you have me. I will see about taking another slot once I am up there.
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