New Colorado Senate Bill 051-08 - Northern Colorado Rocketry

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June 23, 2008 at 9:40 pm #48350
mule
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Typical bureaucratic BS, I dealt with it all the time doing land use and gun laws…
June 23, 2008 at 9:44 pm #48351
Mike Bennett
Same Shit, Same Day!

Oh just so you all know I am watching PPG videos and not really working. Kinda like when I used to do that with rocket videos.
June 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm #48352
mule
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I’m waiting on hold for an eye exam, bouncing between this, the state page emails from Jeremiah and a well log on my desk. Multi tasking to the max….

This almost sounds like Kansas. Only there, they would loose your app, take your money, charge you a fine for not having an app.
June 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm #48353
Mike Bennett
Hehehehehehe ROTFLMAO!!!! 😆
June 23, 2008 at 10:21 pm #48354
mule
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Don’t ever get a ticket for an accident out there either.
Both the K-DOT AND DMV can take your license or fine you. We had a driver get a ticket for an accident from the DMV and then the DOT took his license – personal vehicle too….. Now, if you get a speeding ticket and pay it, you better call and confirm that they have it booked – even if the check clears. I had a warrant for my arrest at one time because of that. Watch it, I’m a dangerous person bwahahahaha
June 24, 2008 at 1:01 am #48355
Bruce R. Schaefer
State? … where was my head? Dept. of Labor and Employment? You’ve got to be freakin’ kidding me? 🙄 Don’t explain the bureaucratic relationship… or lack of logic to this… same thing. Thanks, Greg, Mike… I used to watch rocket videos at work, too… of course, I’ve been in between jobs for 19 months… so I have plenty of time now. 😯
June 25, 2008 at 6:50 am #48356
Conway Stevens
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OK Folks this is some serious crap.. We need to get this into the hands of Joe and have it broadcast via Email or anyway possible. The more members that do something in support the better… If people dont pipe up then could create a lot of issues… This is a hobby.. Hell even the Feds only charged me $200 for my LEDP… with a renewal of $100. As a Current fed permit holder I say we need to step up. 1,300 bucks for a permit!!! WOW…
June 25, 2008 at 2:35 pm #48357
Sparky2
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Does anybody in NCR with a LEUP have the state permits also?
I am wondering why the three different “types” and did anyone try to fight having to purchase 3 Types as just a “user”. Thats expensive at $75.00 a piece much less $1200.00 for the Type II! The thought of going thru the process with the state, virtually duplicating the process the feds have, is not a pleasant thought. Its just a hobby!!!
June 25, 2008 at 2:54 pm #48358
Mike Bennett
Yes I have both. Like I said before Colorado does not recognize low explosives so anything that is explosive is considered high explosives so they are high explosives permits. Rocket motors are listed in their handbook as being explosive. The type I permit is the individual permit which just allows possession not storage. The type II is a business(and individual) and the type III is the storage. But in order to get the storage you have to have the type II permit. To get a type II permit you have to have a type I and vis versa. Kinda a catch 22 if you will. Plus you have to take a high explosives test to get the permits. Here is link to the regulations:

http://oil.cdle.state.co.us/Public%20Safety/Explosives/EXPLOSIVES%20REGULATIONS2005.doc

Here are the permit type definitions direct form the website:

* Type I Permit: A permit required by and issued by the Division of Oil and Public Safety to individuals who possess and control or have access to explosives materials during the use, transportation, storage, distribution, manufacturing, sale, acquisition, or purchase of explosives materials.

* Type II Permit: A permit required by and issued by the Division of Oil and Public Safety to corporations, companies, partnerships, firms, individuals operating a business, associations, or state or local government agencies involved in the use, purchase, sale, manufacture, transportation, or disposal of explosives.

* Type III Permit: A permit required by and issued by the Division of Oil and Public Safety to corporations, companies, partnerships, firms, individuals operating a business, associations, or state or local government agencies for the storage of explosives in approved magazines.

Hope this helps.
June 25, 2008 at 2:55 pm #48359
Conway Stevens
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Does anybody in NCR with a LEUP have the state permits also?
I am wondering why the three different “types” and did anyone try to fight having to purchase 3 Types as just a “user”. Thats expensive at $75.00 a piece much less $1200.00 for the Type II! The thought of going thru the process with the state, virtually duplicating the process the feds have, is not a pleasant thought. Its just a hobby!!!

I have my LEDP. But have not gotten my State permits. Have looked into them. Have the paperwork for them..

Each type is for a different reason. The types are Use, Storage and Transportation. (all 3 types) PLUS you have to take a test and pay a test fee. The test is that one would take if you were going into the blasting or explosives bussiness.

Besides the current amounts that I find out of line to increase them is just ridiculas. As well as having to take a test you dont need to either with the associated fee. BUT the Feds are starting to ask and require you are in compliance with all state laws and permits as well and they can revoke/penalize/whatever for you not having it..
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